“I don’t know that I still am necessarily [being paid equal],” Dern said. “It’s getting closer, but when the right people are in charge who really want to make a difference, when your fellow workers are fighting for parity, that’s when you start to see changes.”
Dern said pay discrepancies in Hollywood have been the norm for her.
“It’s every movie, until recently, when groups of people have stood together and when my fellow cast members are female and we all say, ‘Hey, we would like to effect change and have parity and have a crew that represents parity and diversity,'” Dern outlined, together with that her efforts to advocate for equal pay on earlier initiatives have been typically dismissed.
“I have to admit that as fierce as I want to be in my voice, I can remember my voice shaking and my palms sweating and me wanting backup and me turning to male superiors or male representatives,” she said. “[They’d be] shutting it down with, ‘Well, you don’t open a movie like that person,’ or ‘He’s been doing it longer than you,’ or ‘There are so many other women who want this job.'”
Dern said her suggestion for girls who want to talk up about workplace inequality is to ask totally different female co-workers sturdy and, at situations, uncomfortable questions.
“I’ve watched women in various workplace environments and I know within my industry as well, creating a community of other women workers and having a group text where you share transparency [helps]. ‘What do you make?’ ‘Are you getting overtime?’ ‘Did you get vacation time?’ ‘What happened when you had a baby?'” Dern said. “So when you use your voice, you’re very well informed.”
She moreover teased there are a parallels between her advocacy for girls’s rights and the upcoming season.
“[The season will explore] what happens when women aren’t silenced in their own isolated experience and they have each other and create a community, the magnitude of impact and what happens with lies and silence and what happens with truth,” Dern said. “It’s a very exciting thing to be in a zeitgeist moment for us all.”